Friday, August 20, 2010

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, does that also apply to 'truth'?

My book tells me of the value of friendship. Of being true to your self and knowing your limitations. Of the joy to be found in the simple pleasures of life. That 'learning' isn't everything. That nothing lasts forever, (except perhaps love).





It's called 'The House at Pooh Corner'.If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, does that also apply to 'truth'?
Mmmm, Alan Alexander Milne was a very perceptive man wasn't he! Yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and what a good job we all perceive things differently! As for truth, each person in a human drama holds a peice of the jigsaw and, from that, believes that their view of the picture is absolute. However, it's not until the final peice has been found and put into place that the whole picture, and therefore the complete truth, can be seen. The human mind is so easily deceived, which is why we should always keep it open to possibilities.If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, does that also apply to 'truth'?
Only God knows the real truth. In the human world 'truth' is what we collectively agree to be true. 1+1=2 for example. But it is only true within the context of the way humans look at things. We don't know that there is such a thing as 'truth'. The word itself is probably meaningless. Report Abuse

Great question,wish I had a great answer for you.
So.....if i find the Beholder, stab him, steal his eye and extract the beauty that he hoards within his iris i will be stunning?....... do you have his address?
If learning was not everything, would you have been able to ask the question ?





As for ';Truth'; ... there are many kinds, not all based on fact. but then without learning, how would you know the fact from fiction ? Hence I guess the simple ideal ... ';Ignorance is bliss';.





Fair play to A.A. Milne ... now time to chuck a stick under a bridge and see if a miracle happens and it appears the other side.
Yes, I love the Pooh books too.





But I do believe in objective truth.
Learning is very important, if you didn't learn anything you would remain an infant...Your spirit will last forever, love will last forever and so will your deeds, so do them right... Beauty is creation and patterns designed by God and the truth is in us and the truth in us is God.
Truth is absolute....





Beauty doesn't last
yes.... you are right..... you look through the prism of your mind..... if the mind is joyous playful.... you will see happiness around you.... if the mind is dull... stressed..... then you will see unhappiness..... now what is the truth out there ..... is there happiness or unhappiness ? :) dissolve your mind ...... and you will see the actual truth......
Truth is truth, sometimes from our own perspective it's not pretty, that doesn't change the fact that it's truth.
You're right to a point.


Learning isn't everything.


But failing to learn is less than nothing.


As Pooh demonstrates.


Most ';love'; is a hormone called oxytocin.


Corpses don't produce it.
Please don't tell the news media that truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Very good point Mr Uncut....
No it does not apply to truth. For example, saying ';I believe in God because I feel it'; has no bearing on the existence of god.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
I beg to differ with the venerable Pooh on one thing: learning is not everything, but UNLESS you are a bear of very little brains, it sure is fun and without it, life would be very dull.
No, because truth isn't subjective.
I don't recall much about the book, but it certainly seems to contain some wisdom, such as the ';truth'; that learning isn't everything. For example, truth isn't very useful unless you act in accordance with it.





Even though truth is independent of the beholder, I think everyone has their own frame of reference. A great story illustrating this is the one of the blind men and the elephant where blind men experience an elephant in different ways and obtain radically different ideas of what an elephant is.
Absolutely! Just look at history for example. History deals in facts, right? Wrong, it deals in truth. Take two books about WWII. One from the American perspective and one from the French perspective, two countries that fought on the same side. Do they tell the same story? Hell no because truth is in the eye of the beholder.
yes it does apply to truth as well.what many believe to be true could be the devil in disguise.
I believe the standard fundie answer is that it's either a splinter or plank that's in your eye.


They do say some odd things.





A.A. Milne was a much better author, by far.


He would've said it was a Pooh stick.





:)
Wow, I just used the ';truth is in the eye of the beholder'; line in an email to someone about an hour ago...spooky!





Also spooky, I've counter-challenged Bible quotes with Milne quotes...





I guess the only thing to say is that some people don't get it. Or, in other words, ';Pooh is in the eye of the beholder.';
No, it doesn't apply to Truth. Truth is solid. If truth depended on the person then it wouldn't be truth.


Friendship, being true to your self, knowing your limitations, simple pleasures are all AWESOME! Sure, learning isn't everything and nothing lasts forever (except God)... but Truth isn't necessarily about learning. Truth is the basis for belief.
They say you can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Truth is like that. Even if you have proof, even if the majority agrees, even if... anything; some people will believe as they see fit. So much is in the eye of the beholder, its easier to tolerate then convince.
It applies to everything out there (with the mandatory exception of the entity defined by unity of everythingness, as that has nothing external to be relative to).





So yes... truth is entirely relative.





There is no such thing as objective truth.... only subjective truth..... hence arguing over whether something is or isn't true is entirely redundant.... and anyone who claims truth is absolute is a retard.


... Not an ';absolute'; retard, since that is an impossibility.... but at least 99.99999999% retard.
Well, let's say this: A ';truth nazi'; is not fun to be around. A know it all, always right, the sort who insists they are right, and tell you next day after a conversation that they looked it up at home and saw they were right and you were wrong...





I think there is often, maybe even usually one truth. One true and totally relevant fact. One best or better solution. But a laid back attitude goes down better with civilized people, I think.





This may miss the point, but I hope not.
Of course ';truth'; is subjective.
Beauty certainly does seem to be in the eye of the beholder as several tests have proven,when showing the loved ones three pictures of their beloved one as they are, one improved and one made to look worse they always choose the improved version believing it to be correct . I think people often do this with the true and not always on purpose show a group of people the same thing ,you wont get all the same answers, try going to a weight watchers class there will those who are convinced they are showing a true diet sheet . A very interesting question
A beautiful question. I wish I had the poetry to answer it in kind. My thinking is, however, of the heaver blocky kind. It's good for build things and taking them apart. I'm afraid my answer is of that sort:





One truth, many selves.
No. The truth basically sets the laws of life. So I honestly believe that the truths of life is not bendable.





Unlike beauty which does depend on the person who is looking.

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